Roundtable #1
Falco: Welcome everyone to DS Update's first ever Roundtable Discussion, and tonight we are going to be talking about the Revolution speculations, DS and PSP in US and DS connectivity with the Revolution.
Falco: First topic: What do you guys think about the DS and the PSP is doing in US, and do you think the DS will top the PSP or the PSP will be the victor?
UZG: I think the DS is keeping strong although PSP may be affecting hardware sales
UZG: PSP may take top hardware sales, but DS will have much higher software sales
Mprunty: 1. Both the PSP and the DS have strong sales going on in the U.S. Both are holding their own so far, with several surprises on the way from their respective supporters.
Blackmajik: I think its a really hard call to make, the Sony PSP is getting popularity fast because of its better games, and the DS’s lackluster line up. But the DS has amazing software coming out in the next month, and I don’t know if that will be too late though
Mprunty: 2.In terms of hardware, I see the DS reigning king, but the PSP will make a huge leap towards their 5 million plus come the announcement at E3
Falco: I don’t think the PSP will reach the five million mark before E3
UZG: PSP will be the top for media, and DS for software and games
Blackmajik: I don’t think so; I believe that is more of us DS fans being biased
Falco: I think the DS will have a little advantage against the PSP in the gaming industry just because Nintendo has the handheld market
UZG: From watching media charts, DS is dominating the games, while the PSP seems to be doing slightly better in terms of hardware
UZG: It is apparent that the DS will be for gaming and PSP for everything else
Blackmajik2021: I really hope you’re right, the PSP is being absorbed at the speed of light, I have seen about 10 different people in my town with PSP, and only one with the DS, and the PSP just came out
Mprunty: That's not true, because there are several companies and hackers already making mods for the DS to do other things, so both PSP and DS will have a multimedia appeal
UZG: DS will, but at the moment PSP has the multimedia advantage
Blackmajik2021: I think time will tell especial since the DS has a summer line up of TONES of AAA titles
UZG: I mean even when Play-Yan comes here; it won’t be as popular for media
Falco: the only thing that will be huge for both DS and PSP will be WiFi
UZG: I think E3 will show the strength of the DS with online and some super games
Mprunty: that's only because from the get go, Nintendo has said that the DS was for gaming, whereas Sony has stated that their PSP will have a multimedia experience
Blackmajik: that’s true, but I don’t think Play-Yan will come to North America. It’s basically flopped in Japan, but I believe that was Nintendo’s fault for not advertising and not selling it anywhere but their online store
UZG: well, either way you cut it I think that the DS will be the choice of true gamers and the PSP will be the choice of the casual gamer and the people who want the multimedia
UZG: at the moment Nintendo's image problem still isn't fixed
Falco: Play-Yan will come to North America just to contend with the PSP
Mprunty: it will take time for the image to be fixed of Nintendo.
Blackmajik: PSP may take the North American market
Mprunty: They had and still have a great idea on their hands with the DS, but there are too many games out or planned for the handheld, and that don't utilize the DS features and are catered towards the youth
Blackmajik2021: NOA needs to learn to use something called a TV commercial
UZG: yeah, they need a Geist and RE4 for the DS
Falco: Second Topic: What do u think about the upcoming EA games for the DS like Need for Speed and Goldeneye: Rogue Agent?
Mprunty: they need to adopt 3d for the handheld and stop limiting their actions to 2d
Blackmajik2021: Yes
UZG: I think EA needs to step into the ring with some games that have their own creativity in them
Balckmajik: I believe that it’s stuck in developer’s heads that DS is just a GBA with a touch screen
UZG: I mean all their games aren't original ideas
Blackmajik2021: I don’t want EA to do anything in all honesty. But that’s just me, I want them to plague PSP with garbage, not DS
UZG: Madden and NHL games are all good, but none of the sports games will ever be remembered in 10 years other than Ice Hockey for NES
Falco: The two of the most anticipated DS games on my list will be EA's two game, and Need for Speed Underground 2 and Goldeneye: Rogue Agent looks fantastic on the DS, and it would seem to be fun
Blackmajik: anticipated? Yes
Blackmajik2021: a let down: even more
UZG: they need to step it up
Mprunty2: if EA doesn't show support, other third parties may follow suite. Nintendo and Sony both need EA, whether they want them or not
UZG: they cater to the casual gamer
Mprunty2: that's where the money is
UZG: I buy on average one EA game per console generation, but that’s just me
UZG: it’s a shame, because then some of the better games go unnoticed on the market
UZG: not to mention they are just using the title golden eye to sell copies
Blackmajik2021: the problem with EA is they expect people to be happy with DS madden and then look at how much effort went into the PSP madden
UZG: that title should not be on the game and yeah
Falco: you guys are wrong; I think EA will do something on the Nintendo DS
Blackmajik2021: like?
Falco: just look at NFSU 2 for the DS looks great, and Goldeneye seems to be fun
Mprunty: EA has plans for both DS and PSP
UZG: I think EA will do as much as they've usually done with other handheld like the DS but cater more to the PSP as it is more aimed for the casual gamer
Blackmajik: but look at madden, they jumped the gun and now 2006 isn’t even coming out, and they blame it on the consumer but it’s their own fault
UZG: I wouldn’t buy a madden game for a handheld, its just a watered down version
Falco: lol
Falco: yeah the Madden game for the DS wasn't that good
Mprunty: it’s both.................EA knows they are shortcoming their games, but at the same time, supporters don't support it
UZG: I would like to see EA make a more involved version for the DS
Mprunty: it may not look all too good, but it played ok, nothing for me to really complain against
Blackmajik: look at madden 2002 for the n64, for Christ sake the DS version looks like it could’ve been a Saturn game
UZG: no, but the game is better suited to a console like super smash bros (another game that shouldn’t make an appearance on the DS)
Blackmajik: it’s their laziness
Mprunty: but they were trying to get titles prepared for the DS launching, so you can't expect miracle on that end
Falco: Third Topic: As you guys may have known, Video gamer J got exclusive info on "Nintendo Connect" but some people have said it is fake because the copyright said 1997-2005. What do you guys think?
UZG: I think it is better to wait and see
UZG: so that’s as much as I’m going to say on that
Blackmajik2021: I believe DS connectivity with revolution, if properly advertised would bring DS to an amazing lead in sales and popularity in North America. DS is already dominating in Japan and will be the only next gen handheld in Europe till September
Blackmajik: I think its suspicious video gamer j isn’t here
UZG: I think he had to work
Mprunty: I'm not going to say anything in regards to Nintendo Connect until after E3 has come and gone
UZG: he wanted to come
Blackmajik: lol
Backmajik2021: *it was a joke*
UZG: lol ok
Falco: Fourth Topic: the Revolution Speculations, and what’s going to happen for Nintendo DS going online?
UZG: speculation: we don’t find out the revolutionary features at this E3
UZG: I expect it to make a small appearance with some videos and for them to say they are developing a few big titles for it and then leave us hanging
Falco: Super Smash Bros. going online, Gyroscope controls, and pressure sensitive controls? I think I can believe this guy
Blackmajik: yeah, we already know the revolutionary features
Blackmajik: the heat sensitive thing is bogus
UZG: all speculation for now
Blackmajik: and there will be no touch screen controls
Falco: I laughed when I read that
Blackmajik: do you about touch screen?
Falco: no, heat sensitive
UZG: expect the DS and online to be the big deal at Nintendo's booth this year
UZG: Revolution next year
Blackmajik: Iwata-san himself said DS offers a hint of what revolution will bring to the table, but it wont have any form of a touch screen or touch pad
UZG: I think you misquote Iwata-san a lot
Mprunty: I think he was referring to how the system will operate with other components and through online play
Falco: I love that the Revolution will have online
UZG: online will be one of the heavy hitters for Nintendo this year
Blackmajik: what I believe he meant by "hint" is that there will be pressure sensitive
something (handles or something like that) and that its a hint of DS because they both require extra user interaction of "feeling" the game
Blackmajik: all Nintendo games were made for online
UZG: I’m sure that what he meant is that it will be a change to gaming
UZG: not any specific features
Blackmajik: Nintendo only has one flaw, and that is that you cant rush innovation
Falco: true
UZG: too much over examination
UZG: we'll see
Falco: Final Topic: Will Warp Pipe does anything with the DS going online?
UZG: I think warp pipe is cooking something, but it wont is nearly as big as they want us to think
Blackmajik: I think its something stupid
UZG: I think warp pipe will be an overall let down
Falco: Warp Pipe might do something, but it will not be something big
UZG: they had hype before launch, now they're at the same point as Nitro... they say they're doing something, but who knows when any of us will ever see it
Mprunty: I see warp pipe as a stepping stone or smaller developers to get their games online easier
UZG: yeah
Falco: Nitro is dead from what I see of its site
UZG: more or less a developer tools more than something for the user
Blackmajik: yeah I guess so
UZG: we may see something new and say wow then go back to eating our dinner
Mprunty: LOL
Falco: lol
Mprunty: I love those moments
UZG: its like the first time you feel the rumble pack
UZG: good for the first 10 min then you forget about it and don’t even feel it
Blackmajik: yeah
Blackmajik: rumble=stupidest innovation ever
UZG: I could do without a rumble pack
UZG: no way
Blackmajik: yes way
UZG: GBA+GC for a Zelda game
UZG: that was stupid
Blackmajik: do you know how much money was spent researching and developing rumble
Mprunty: LOL
Blackmajik2021: and force feedback
Blackmajik2021: Zelda four swords was amazing
Falco: We'll see if Warp Pipe can bring anything on the table at E3 and it's game AHHH-Choooo
UZG: blah, blah, blah, it'll be another flash game that is above average
UZG: nothing more nothing less
Blackmajik2021: that made no sense falco
Blackmajik2021: oooo yeah achooo
Blackmajik2021: I hate flash games
Blackmajik: if you are lucky like me and have friends who game
Falco: but they said it will be show what DemaSked can do at E3
UZG: I know
UZG: it will be above average
UZG: and then we will go back to playing some other stupid flash games like ski stunt
Falco: lol
Falco: I would like to thank everyone for coming; it has been fun talking with you guys
UZG: np
Mprunty: same here
Blackmajik: same here, as well
Falco: First topic: What do you guys think about the DS and the PSP is doing in US, and do you think the DS will top the PSP or the PSP will be the victor?
UZG: I think the DS is keeping strong although PSP may be affecting hardware sales
UZG: PSP may take top hardware sales, but DS will have much higher software sales
Mprunty: 1. Both the PSP and the DS have strong sales going on in the U.S. Both are holding their own so far, with several surprises on the way from their respective supporters.
Blackmajik: I think its a really hard call to make, the Sony PSP is getting popularity fast because of its better games, and the DS’s lackluster line up. But the DS has amazing software coming out in the next month, and I don’t know if that will be too late though
Mprunty: 2.In terms of hardware, I see the DS reigning king, but the PSP will make a huge leap towards their 5 million plus come the announcement at E3
Falco: I don’t think the PSP will reach the five million mark before E3
UZG: PSP will be the top for media, and DS for software and games
Blackmajik: I don’t think so; I believe that is more of us DS fans being biased
Falco: I think the DS will have a little advantage against the PSP in the gaming industry just because Nintendo has the handheld market
UZG: From watching media charts, DS is dominating the games, while the PSP seems to be doing slightly better in terms of hardware
UZG: It is apparent that the DS will be for gaming and PSP for everything else
Blackmajik2021: I really hope you’re right, the PSP is being absorbed at the speed of light, I have seen about 10 different people in my town with PSP, and only one with the DS, and the PSP just came out
Mprunty: That's not true, because there are several companies and hackers already making mods for the DS to do other things, so both PSP and DS will have a multimedia appeal
UZG: DS will, but at the moment PSP has the multimedia advantage
Blackmajik2021: I think time will tell especial since the DS has a summer line up of TONES of AAA titles
UZG: I mean even when Play-Yan comes here; it won’t be as popular for media
Falco: the only thing that will be huge for both DS and PSP will be WiFi
UZG: I think E3 will show the strength of the DS with online and some super games
Mprunty: that's only because from the get go, Nintendo has said that the DS was for gaming, whereas Sony has stated that their PSP will have a multimedia experience
Blackmajik: that’s true, but I don’t think Play-Yan will come to North America. It’s basically flopped in Japan, but I believe that was Nintendo’s fault for not advertising and not selling it anywhere but their online store
UZG: well, either way you cut it I think that the DS will be the choice of true gamers and the PSP will be the choice of the casual gamer and the people who want the multimedia
UZG: at the moment Nintendo's image problem still isn't fixed
Falco: Play-Yan will come to North America just to contend with the PSP
Mprunty: it will take time for the image to be fixed of Nintendo.
Blackmajik: PSP may take the North American market
Mprunty: They had and still have a great idea on their hands with the DS, but there are too many games out or planned for the handheld, and that don't utilize the DS features and are catered towards the youth
Blackmajik2021: NOA needs to learn to use something called a TV commercial
UZG: yeah, they need a Geist and RE4 for the DS
Falco: Second Topic: What do u think about the upcoming EA games for the DS like Need for Speed and Goldeneye: Rogue Agent?
Mprunty: they need to adopt 3d for the handheld and stop limiting their actions to 2d
Blackmajik2021: Yes
UZG: I think EA needs to step into the ring with some games that have their own creativity in them
Balckmajik: I believe that it’s stuck in developer’s heads that DS is just a GBA with a touch screen
UZG: I mean all their games aren't original ideas
Blackmajik2021: I don’t want EA to do anything in all honesty. But that’s just me, I want them to plague PSP with garbage, not DS
UZG: Madden and NHL games are all good, but none of the sports games will ever be remembered in 10 years other than Ice Hockey for NES
Falco: The two of the most anticipated DS games on my list will be EA's two game, and Need for Speed Underground 2 and Goldeneye: Rogue Agent looks fantastic on the DS, and it would seem to be fun
Blackmajik: anticipated? Yes
Blackmajik2021: a let down: even more
UZG: they need to step it up
Mprunty2: if EA doesn't show support, other third parties may follow suite. Nintendo and Sony both need EA, whether they want them or not
UZG: they cater to the casual gamer
Mprunty2: that's where the money is
UZG: I buy on average one EA game per console generation, but that’s just me
UZG: it’s a shame, because then some of the better games go unnoticed on the market
UZG: not to mention they are just using the title golden eye to sell copies
Blackmajik2021: the problem with EA is they expect people to be happy with DS madden and then look at how much effort went into the PSP madden
UZG: that title should not be on the game and yeah
Falco: you guys are wrong; I think EA will do something on the Nintendo DS
Blackmajik2021: like?
Falco: just look at NFSU 2 for the DS looks great, and Goldeneye seems to be fun
Mprunty: EA has plans for both DS and PSP
UZG: I think EA will do as much as they've usually done with other handheld like the DS but cater more to the PSP as it is more aimed for the casual gamer
Blackmajik: but look at madden, they jumped the gun and now 2006 isn’t even coming out, and they blame it on the consumer but it’s their own fault
UZG: I wouldn’t buy a madden game for a handheld, its just a watered down version
Falco: lol
Falco: yeah the Madden game for the DS wasn't that good
Mprunty: it’s both.................EA knows they are shortcoming their games, but at the same time, supporters don't support it
UZG: I would like to see EA make a more involved version for the DS
Mprunty: it may not look all too good, but it played ok, nothing for me to really complain against
Blackmajik: look at madden 2002 for the n64, for Christ sake the DS version looks like it could’ve been a Saturn game
UZG: no, but the game is better suited to a console like super smash bros (another game that shouldn’t make an appearance on the DS)
Blackmajik: it’s their laziness
Mprunty: but they were trying to get titles prepared for the DS launching, so you can't expect miracle on that end
Falco: Third Topic: As you guys may have known, Video gamer J got exclusive info on "Nintendo Connect" but some people have said it is fake because the copyright said 1997-2005. What do you guys think?
UZG: I think it is better to wait and see
UZG: so that’s as much as I’m going to say on that
Blackmajik2021: I believe DS connectivity with revolution, if properly advertised would bring DS to an amazing lead in sales and popularity in North America. DS is already dominating in Japan and will be the only next gen handheld in Europe till September
Blackmajik: I think its suspicious video gamer j isn’t here
UZG: I think he had to work
Mprunty: I'm not going to say anything in regards to Nintendo Connect until after E3 has come and gone
UZG: he wanted to come
Blackmajik: lol
Backmajik2021: *it was a joke*
UZG: lol ok
Falco: Fourth Topic: the Revolution Speculations, and what’s going to happen for Nintendo DS going online?
UZG: speculation: we don’t find out the revolutionary features at this E3
UZG: I expect it to make a small appearance with some videos and for them to say they are developing a few big titles for it and then leave us hanging
Falco: Super Smash Bros. going online, Gyroscope controls, and pressure sensitive controls? I think I can believe this guy
Blackmajik: yeah, we already know the revolutionary features
Blackmajik: the heat sensitive thing is bogus
UZG: all speculation for now
Blackmajik: and there will be no touch screen controls
Falco: I laughed when I read that
Blackmajik: do you about touch screen?
Falco: no, heat sensitive
UZG: expect the DS and online to be the big deal at Nintendo's booth this year
UZG: Revolution next year
Blackmajik: Iwata-san himself said DS offers a hint of what revolution will bring to the table, but it wont have any form of a touch screen or touch pad
UZG: I think you misquote Iwata-san a lot
Mprunty: I think he was referring to how the system will operate with other components and through online play
Falco: I love that the Revolution will have online
UZG: online will be one of the heavy hitters for Nintendo this year
Blackmajik: what I believe he meant by "hint" is that there will be pressure sensitive
something (handles or something like that) and that its a hint of DS because they both require extra user interaction of "feeling" the game
Blackmajik: all Nintendo games were made for online
UZG: I’m sure that what he meant is that it will be a change to gaming
UZG: not any specific features
Blackmajik: Nintendo only has one flaw, and that is that you cant rush innovation
Falco: true
UZG: too much over examination
UZG: we'll see
Falco: Final Topic: Will Warp Pipe does anything with the DS going online?
UZG: I think warp pipe is cooking something, but it wont is nearly as big as they want us to think
Blackmajik: I think its something stupid
UZG: I think warp pipe will be an overall let down
Falco: Warp Pipe might do something, but it will not be something big
UZG: they had hype before launch, now they're at the same point as Nitro... they say they're doing something, but who knows when any of us will ever see it
Mprunty: I see warp pipe as a stepping stone or smaller developers to get their games online easier
UZG: yeah
Falco: Nitro is dead from what I see of its site
UZG: more or less a developer tools more than something for the user
Blackmajik: yeah I guess so
UZG: we may see something new and say wow then go back to eating our dinner
Mprunty: LOL
Falco: lol
Mprunty: I love those moments
UZG: its like the first time you feel the rumble pack
UZG: good for the first 10 min then you forget about it and don’t even feel it
Blackmajik: yeah
Blackmajik: rumble=stupidest innovation ever
UZG: I could do without a rumble pack
UZG: no way
Blackmajik: yes way
UZG: GBA+GC for a Zelda game
UZG: that was stupid
Blackmajik: do you know how much money was spent researching and developing rumble
Mprunty: LOL
Blackmajik2021: and force feedback
Blackmajik2021: Zelda four swords was amazing
Falco: We'll see if Warp Pipe can bring anything on the table at E3 and it's game AHHH-Choooo
UZG: blah, blah, blah, it'll be another flash game that is above average
UZG: nothing more nothing less
Blackmajik2021: that made no sense falco
Blackmajik2021: oooo yeah achooo
Blackmajik2021: I hate flash games
Blackmajik: if you are lucky like me and have friends who game
Falco: but they said it will be show what DemaSked can do at E3
UZG: I know
UZG: it will be above average
UZG: and then we will go back to playing some other stupid flash games like ski stunt
Falco: lol
Falco: I would like to thank everyone for coming; it has been fun talking with you guys
UZG: np
Mprunty: same here
Blackmajik: same here, as well
6 Comments:
i read half it sounds good... now lets have it happen
Falco, you really need to give me notice sooner so I can make these things. I'm always looking forward to this.
i did. the first one I gave everyone almost a weeks notice about the Disussion, but know one came except for El Maraichi and Blackmajik. The second one I would agree on because I wanted to get the Discussion on the site this week, but we will have another Discussion at the end of May so i'll let you guys know today or tomorrow
That seemed like a really good disscussion there guys. I really wanted to make it, but I over slept
Sorry guys i didn't have more to say on the subject.
Hmm... It appears as if I've missed yet another RTD. Sorry. I'll try to make it to the next one, but I can't guarantee anything.
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